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    My friend from Palestine

    Fuad you don’t need to introduce yourself. Everyone (not just in
    Kumaon) remembers you (fondly) and admires you for your pluck. I think
    you’ve done more for India (and perhaps spent more time in India) than
    many who were born here. Some may not agree with your perspective but
    we all want it. It’s rare that we get a chance to reexamine
    stereotypes, assumptions, who we are, and who we might be.


    First a request to you and to the Group. Controversial references to
    G(h)andi are best avoided. There have been precedents (such as Sasthi
    Brata who in exile has now authored ‘Traitor to India.’ Another beauty
    Nikki (Bedi’s) got thrown out for interviewing Brata on the air in
    which he said that Gandhi was a baniya ‘b….d.'). Let’s avoid any
    misinterpretation at a Raashtra level.


    Second, I would like to understand why some (many?) of us want to
    ‘control the world.’ (as you said, “Why NO ONE is calling for an Asian
    Union?
We can control the world !!!”). I do have sympathies with the
    Palestine (but prefer to be neutral). Fuad you’re not ‘chicken’ and
    they no longer knight you for smashing your bike head-on to play for
    honor.

    As your bridge partner in the final year, I remember your bidding
    system for the tournaments. (For the uninitiated a bid of one-spade
    signals that I have a good spade suit with over 12 points in high
    cards, etc. If I have below 12-points I would usually say ‘pass’ or
    ‘no-bid.’). Fuad you taught me to signal 8-11 points with a ‘Pass’ and
    less than 8 points with a ‘No-bid.’ And to avoid confusion as we
    entered the tournament hall you said to me, “busturrd, remember Pass
    is pass (like in ‘I might pass,’) but No-bid means no cards at all.

    We still lost.

    P.S. I would love to invite you home and you can fearlessly drive on
    the Right side of the Road here. A few million Delhiites are already
    chicken.

    On 31-Jul-2010, at 11:00 AM, Fuad Numan wrote:


    Hi All Delhi IITians....

    Let me introduce myself first....

    Fuad Rashed Husni AlNuman
    B.Tech 1977 (Mech), M.Tech 1979 {Production & Industrial)

    I was an active student of IITD, and U all shd remember that Jordanian
    Student staying in Kumaon all the way!
    Squash #1 & Captain all the way...
    Football team & Captain who won U Gold at IIT Bombay inter IIT meet....
    Got plenty of cups and awards from IITD....
    Got the Roll of Honor and Freedom of the house.....
    What else.. A Devil Biker and a "Chicken" player !!!
    Do U all know what is that crazy game?
    Its going on a bike straight against another from the opposite
    direction at high speed head on... Whoever sways away to any side is
    the Chicken and looser!!!

    Now, lets get serious here...

    I have seen India more than U all for sure.... I visited almost every
    city...from Big ones to
    Khajraho...Nanital...Jabalpur...Allahabad...Alighar...Kashmir...Simla...Jaipur...Bhopal...Luknow...Banares....
    can keep listing to make U get the point!
    I was a translator during my training at (ITI Bangalore) between
    south&Noth Indians who did not know English!!

    The point is that I mixed with people from diff states and
    cultures...Languages...Religions....etc...
    I did not meet Indians who understand the fact that the Indian
    sub-continent was divided as a conspiracy and shd be united again!
    U all shd understand that it was all a plot to slow down progress in
    this part of the world, and Asia in general!

    Right from the time of Ghandi Jee, they started this plan....
    When the National movements rose up to resist the English occupation,
    and started killing army men and British Land lords...
    Naxalites and resistance groups used to act... aquire guns and
    Bullets... Run away at night to hide in any nearby village to find
    doors Open!

    The British found a way to fight this back without having to push in
    more troops..... Make people resist peacefully....!!!!

    At that time, any one caught with a bullet only was hanged...

    Suddenly, Ghandi arrives and lays down in front of the governers
    motorcade..... That never stops for any reason...
    It stopped for the unknown new comer... and was requested to get up
    and go away....He refused...
    The British guards removed him and the motorcade moved on its way.....
    Later, Ghandi lays down on the railway track in a major station, and
    was requested to move away, then carried away....

    U all know how curious Indians are.... Get a couple of guys to stand
    in a Que behind U against an open windowin C.Place,
    and U'll have a long line coming behind U to wait and see what's
    being given or sold out there.....

    Indians were asked to resist peacefully after that and all followed
    this policy...The Resistance died...
    If any one Kills a British and runs away to any door step to hide, he
    found closed doors asking him to stop this violance...

    The British lived happily ever after..... until independance...which
    was not WON...But was granted like all other coloneis all over the
    world in 1947..
    Thats how we lost a big part of our homeland in Palestine that time...1947...
    Iraq..Syria...Jordan.... all colonies of the British and French got
    independance without any Ghandi.....
    So, why did Ghandi suddenly come to India from South Africa?
    Why did he allow the Partition of India? He did not want it, but on
    the other hand, he did not stop it..
    His role was over...thats why he was killed.... No real trustworthy
    investigation was made to find the motive....

    Now, I want all to get my point... They wanted a weak region with
    differences to hault progress...They Succeeded for long.

    Now India is a big power and economy, but would be bigger and stronger
    if united with Pakistan & BanglaDesh for sure...

    All this is done by the west to Hault Asia...Why NO ONE is calling for
    an Asian Union?
    We can control the world !!!

    If China, Japan, United India, The Gulf states, All Asian countries
    and many more come together; we'll control the world!!!!!

    We have the Huge land... Food...the Oil...The Technology...The
    Manpower, which is an assit if U employ it!
    We can dictate our terms and control trade and be stronger than all
    Unions around the Globe.... Right?

    When India resolves to use an official language for all states beside
    the local ones, many things get straight there,
    But we are now talking about an ASIAN UNION .....how about that?

    I hope that I did not interupt Yr debate without a brain storming
    issue that matters to our Asia...Our Future...


    With Best Wishes...........
    Fu'ad Nu'man


    To: IITDBatch1979@yahoogroups.com
    From: bala@imsc.res.in
    Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:35:41 +0530
    Subject: Re: [IITDBatch1979] Fw: Why India needs Narendra Modi?


    Hi
    I have to say that I find myself wincing everytime I read some of
    this communal stereotyping that I see in some of these mails!

    eg "bengali brain is no less than any Tamil Brahmin one or a Mumbai
    one" or
    " Mumbai may believe Fiat set up shop in Maratha-land because Marathas
    are better workers"
    "Bible Belt" (In India???)
    What's going on here? Is there a conspiracy among the NRI IIT-ians to
    undermine the concept of India as a nation?!!

    Here's a counterpoint (some fresh air!) that I came across:

    A wonderful way of looking at India's pluralistic diversity!

    BY : G.V.DASARATHI

    (GV Dasarathi is director of a software products development company)

    This when I was born 46 years ago.

    I was born to Tamil speaking parents,

    my father had a dark skin and my mother a light one.

    My ayah was a light-skinned woman from UP who spoke Hindi.

    We lived in a thickly forested area in Jharkhand,

    where the majority of the population was dark-skinned

    tribal people who spoke a language called Ho.

    On my trips out of home I saw people wearing all kinds

    of attire -- from sadhus wearing nothing at all,

    to the locals who went topless, to women in burqas.

    Most of the guests in our home spoke English.

    We were Hindu, my ayah was Muslim, and the tribals

    were either Christian or Animists who worshiped trees,

    animals or the spirits of their forefathers.

    People around me had all kinds of food habits.

    Some ate only vegetables, some did not eat cattle,

    some did not eat pigs, some ate anything including

    rats and monitor lizards.

    Our small mining community celebrated festivals

    of all religions with equal gusto.

    We lived in the middle of an almost virgin forest

    that was home to a huge variety of wild animals

    that included elephants, bears and deer.

    The animals added to the fun and the unpredictability

    of life by occasionally walking into our tiny community

    of 10 houses (sometimes into them).

    This was my small introduction to the enormous diversity

    of this wonderful land. Even as an infant I was listening to

    people of different colours and facial features speaking four

    languages, of four religions, dressing in different ways, and

    eating a variety of food.

    These must have been the lessons that I learned ;

    anyone looking like a human was a human, irrespective of

    skin colour or features; humans worshiped all sorts of gods,

    wore all sorts of clothing, ate all kinds of food, and spoke all

    kinds of languages.

    As I grew up, my father's company transferred him every

    two or three years through about half the states in India.

    I saw the rest of India. I learned that Indians believe in far

    more gods than the four that I was introduced to as an infant.

    I learned that each state has three or four different regions.

    People in each of these regions speak different languages or

    dialects and may not even understand the other dialects in

    their own state. Each region eats a different kind of food,

    wears different clothing, is culturally very different,

    and looks very different geographically.

    Today, nobody can convince me that I am superior to

    someone else because of my religion, skin colour or language.

    The diversity that I experienced, accepted and enjoyed as an

    infant is not unique to me. Every Indian experiences this --

    only the details differ. I believe that this is what makes us the

    most tolerant country in the world. I enjoy our diversity so

    much that I cannot even think of living in one of those countries

    where everything is homogeneous -- everybody looks the same,

    eats the same food, believes in the same religion.

    Think of countries like the Netherlands, Germany, Japan,

    Sweden... hundreds of them.

    Yes, the diversity occasionally makes us kill each other,

    usually over different religions or sub-religions.

    This is tragic and should never happen, but look at it this way:

    Sunnis, Buddhists, Roman Catholics, Sikhs, Bohras,

    Digambar Jains, Parsis, Khurmis, Iyers, Agarwals, Nairs,

    Syrian Christians, Shias, Shwetambar Jains, Jews, Ismailis,

    Seventh Day Adventists, Bishnois and a whole lot of other

    groups live together in India.

    In Britain and Yemen two sects of the same religion were

    killing each other for decades.

    In Lebanon, people from two religions have been killing each other.

    The US and South Africa have seen huge problems over two skin colours.

    In Canada it's over two languages.

    As an Indian, I laugh at these silly reasons for their conflicts --

    two religions, two colours, two languages.

    I feel like saying "Hey guys, try Digamber Jain, Gujarati-speaking,

    pyjama-kurta-
    wearing herbivore co-existing with Syrian Christian,

    Malayalam-speaking, mundu-wearing carnivore".

    Where would we be if we had been as intolerant as them?

    I believe that the religious intolerance that we are seeing now

    is confined to a small percentage of us, and that in the long run

    we have the sense to not take our differences too seriously,

    to acknowledge that the whole lot of us are a wonderful amalgam

    of different races, religions and cultures.

    I can never be a global citizen. Contrary to the advice that

    any stockbroker would give, I've invested all my emotional

    stocks in this company called India, because I'm sure that

    the value of these stocks can only go up.

    Not because of the amount of steel, armaments and textiles

    we can make, but because we know how to live together.

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